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Nick Payne
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Location: Canberra, Australia

9/9/22 1:07 AM

OT: Fighting Kangaroos

Relation to cycling? One of my cycling friends showed me this - it happened on the nature reserve that his house backs onto. That's a six foot fence next to the roos. When I come across them while out cycling or walking, I keep my distance - they're the same height as me and a lot stronger and faster. I followed one down a road near Mallacoota in Victoria once, and it was sitting on about 40kph for quite a distance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7M6lhzYOow

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: hillbilly heaven

9/9/22 8:11 AM

Do the females fight or just the males? I/ve seen a video where 1 takes out a cyclist. The kangaroo didnt even lose its balance.

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RCoapman
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Location: Back in the snowy homeland

9/9/22 10:04 AM

If I ever make it to Oz, I ain't going anywhere near them simply because of the 'Roid Rage....

<img src="https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7322199.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Roger-the-musclebound-kangaroo-is-back--and-it-looks-like-hes-been-hitting-the-weights.jpg">

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Nick Payne
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9/9/22 2:56 PM

I've never seen females fighting, only males. The females are noticeably smaller, too, and they're quite amusing sometimes. When they have young joeys in the pouch, and the mother is bending forwards eating grass, the joey can also browse on grass without leaving the pouch. We were cycling up a local hill, and a mother and young were doing exactly this only a few metres off the road. When she spotted us, she sat up, used her forearms to stuff the joey completely into the pouch, and used her muscles more or less zip it shut. From the movements of the pouch, we could see the joey was struggling to get out, but unable to do so.

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Nick Payne
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9/12/22 3:28 PM

Co-incidentally, I just came across this article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/12/man-77-dies-in-western-australia-after-being-attacked-by-wild-kangaroo-being-kept-as-a-pet .

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dfcas
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9/12/22 4:48 PM

I've read they jump and kick with their back feet and their claws are sharp. Dangerous animals.

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Sparky
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9/12/22 8:09 PM

I guess the Red Kanga are the Schwarzenegger of roos

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RCoapman
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9/13/22 8:32 AM


quote:
I've read they jump and kick with their back feet and their claws are sharp.


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Sparky
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9/13/22 10:27 AM

Just carry this along with you riding, be fine...

Works on douche drivers too!


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dan emery
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9/13/22 3:23 PM

Roos

I understand they grab you with their arms and then seek to disembowel you with their toenail.

You can see that tactic tried here. This almost seems like a setup, but on the other hand, how could you do that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIRT7lf8byw

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Nick Payne
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9/13/22 3:43 PM

Cassowaries can inflict large (even fatal) injuries with their talons. The Cassowary is a large flightless bird in the same genus as Ostriches and Emus, about as tall as a man, and the talons on its feet are large enough that in New Guinea, the natives use them as spear points. I remember that when I was in Cairns years ago, a German tourist was badly slashed when attacked by one. Luckily, they only occur in the tropics, not in Canberra where I now live.

The claws on a young Cassowary:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassowary

As for kangaroos and dogs, a friend's sister was walking her dogs around one of the local lakes, and the dogs bailed up a kangaroo and followed it into the water when it sought refuge there. The upshot of that was that once the dogs got out of their depth and had to swim, the kangaroo drowned one of the dogs.

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Nick Payne
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9/14/22 3:46 PM

And a couple of my friends have been taken out by kangaroos (who have no road sense) while cycling, like this: https://twitter.com/me_parthor/status/1569201153124212736 .

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Sparky
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9/14/22 7:24 PM

The Roos had no road sense, or the friends? I think I know... ;)

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RCoapman
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9/15/22 8:55 AM


quote:
https://twitter.com/me_parthor/status/1569201153124212736


Holy shit...that person looks like they got knocked out by the animal...they flopped down like a rag doll.

Note to self, the rumours about everything in Australia trying to kill you are clearly true.

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Nick Payne
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9/16/22 4:53 AM


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the rumours about everything in Australia trying to kill you are clearly true
Well, we're heading off to Wollongong tomorrow to watch the world championships, and I'll be interested to see the interaction between our magpies and the overseas riders. It's magpie nesting season here, and they can get quite aggressive if you stray into their nesting territory. Some cyclists get quite terrified, to the extent that they won't ride down certain roads that are known to have a magpie that swoops cyclists. Quite a lot of local commuting/touring cyclists festoon their helmets with zip ties at this time of year, but I don't think that actually does much:

When the world championships were last held in Australia in 2010, I saw a comment from Philippe Gilbert saying that he'd been wondering why he had seen cyclists with these zip-tied helmets, and found out when, as he put it, "a black and white object zapped past his face at about 70kph, and he turned and saw a large bird flying away". He did add that he wouldn't be following suit with the zip ties.

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Sparky
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9/16/22 10:33 AM

Seen the zip tie shot, I figure I'm already too low on the food chain. And an OZ visit unlikely for many more reasons than that anyway. ;)

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dan emery
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9/18/22 3:01 PM

Dogpile

As we're talking about animal interactions, Iíll talk about my experience walking my Dalmatians yesterday, which seems more remarkable the more I think about it.

I have a 10 year old female Beani, and an 11 year old male, Manny. Both are in great shape and athletic, but obviously not young.

Yesterday we are returning from a walk, crossing a RR track that runs in front of my house. They are on leashes. I hear a scream, look down the track, and see a dog I believe to be a Belgian Malinois, who has escaped his walker and is streaking at us. A Malinois is like a slightly smaller German Shepherd, and often trained as a police dog. Once some kids broke into my office and they brought a Malinois on-site to track. The officer said ďdonít approach the dog, heís trained to attack if you approach him.Ē

My dogs start barking their heads off and straining at their leashes, I start yelling. The Malinois runs in at full speed and goes after Manny, who becomes unclipped from his leash and they tumble in the brush. The Mal is not messing around. Beani, who is still on her leash, jumps on the Mal. This is a true dog pile.

Before I can do anything the Malís walker, a young woman, sprints in and literally dives into the pile. She get her arms around her dog and gets some separation. I get Manny and Beani, and lead them behind my fence.

No one is hurt, my dogs do not seem the least upset.

But holy crap, the Malís (I presume) owner is a modern incarnation of Xena the Warrior Princess. And my dogs are pretty resilient.

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Sparky
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9/18/22 4:11 PM

Just glad this story didn't end with your other shoulder a dog yankage casualty...

;)

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