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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6420
Location: Maine

7/1/20 3:26 PM

Kayak trailer?

With virus stuff I havenít been using my kayak, but I should start. Not having a helper, and having a sketchy back, getting the boat on the roof is doable but not fun for me. My new car will have a trailer hitch. So, for Brian or anyone else, any downside (other than cost) to using a trailer? Iím thinking I would get out more that way. TIA

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 17844
Location: Portland, OR

7/1/20 5:18 PM

My neighbor gets me to lift her boat up for her often.

She ordered a suction cup roller thing I will help get installed and lined up for her tallish Subaru. Should be here any day now, can keep you posted if you like...

https://www.amazon.com/Codinter-Roller-Assist-Heavy-Duty-Suction/dp/B07WFJHPFY

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

7/1/20 5:26 PM

Hmmm

Thanks, looks like it might possibly work. Iíll let you test it!

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Sparky
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Location: Portland, OR

7/1/20 6:25 PM

Trailer wise, when we get some boats, a trailer it will be as we will get two. And have the trailer already.

I got a 4'6" x 8' Aluminum trailer with a 4' drop ramp gate I picked up early this year. Used and provisions for good quick release tie downs points [6] and a removable wheel chuck for a Harley. What is was originally purchased for.

I went Alloy as it is like 330 lb. My 4cyl CRV AWD is rated 2000lb tow capacity. So I figured the extra payload over a steel trailer being so much lighter with the 4 cyl was worth the ample extra coin for alloy over steel. No paint or rust other pluses.

I will make a pallet A-frame to strap on for our two, and two more I figure. being we have none and they seem all sold out here, will wait I guess.

Just how our thought process on similar tasks has developed thus far.

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Tom Price
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 457
Location: Rochester, NY

7/1/20 6:27 PM

Cycling Relate

The roller looks like it is made with a set of drop handlebars.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4667
Location: Nashua, NH

7/1/20 6:30 PM

The best solution would be a paddling partner, both to help with handling the boats and to help you stay safer on the water. If you haven't checked put local clubs for someone to paddle with, you should. I know there are NSPN members from your area, but I don't have any names for you. I'm sure that there are ME-based clubs, too. For that matter, Tom Berg may know people near you.

As for trailers, the biggest issue is that they take up a lot of room, particularly when it comes to parking. That can be a real headache at put-ins. Storage may or may not be an issue for you, but it's another consideration. Some may argue that they expose the boat(s) to more potential for damage from cars around you. Most utility and boat trailers are designed for much heavier loads and the suspension is too stiff - which can beat up a kayak - so the best bet is a kayak-specific trailer. However, they tend to be pricey.

The upside is that they are definitely are easier to load and if you get a dolly for it (https://www.harborfreight.com/600-lb-heavy-duty-trailer-dolly-60533.html?_br_psugg_q=trailer+dolly), you can wheel it to and from the water (assuming a boat ramp or other reasonably solid surface) without the hassle of backing up or carrying the boat, both of which can be a pain. If you decide to get one, make sure it has at least 12" wheels, which are much better for highway use than common 8" wheels.

If you decide to go with a roof rack, a roller of some sort can make getting a boat on and off your vehicle a lot easier. I've seen some petite, older women put big boats on tall vehicles solo by using a roller, or even just a piece of carpet to slide the boat on. If you only have to lift one end at a time and push the boat up, it makes a dramatic difference.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: Portland, OR

7/1/20 6:34 PM

Our neighbor meets friends, so they unload/load with 2-3 paddlers at launch site.. I get to toss it up for her, it is a light 35lb small boat. Only time I had less than a quick hoist/toss was once she caught me off a 50 miler I rode hard and fast [fast for me]...

She has hopes the roller method will help her load solo with less injury risk to car and self. Looking at the scratches on her hatch edges, a few 'A' for effort attempts have been... well attempted.


EDIT: txted her and she did not order it as of yet.


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Sparky
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Location: Portland, OR

7/1/20 6:39 PM

Any comment on Burly trailers while I have all your attention. Honey Bee or something. My Niece is looking we thought it would make a nice gift. Seem some are plastic wheels, some are alloy? Nicer units laced spokes.

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lrzipris
Joined: 04 Mar 2004
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Location: Doylestown, PA

7/2/20 5:42 AM

Dan, have you considered a Hullavator or a Hull-a-Port? The arms come down to about waist height, making the lift of the kayak into more of a shift.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6420
Location: Maine

7/2/20 7:29 AM

Actually

I can get the boat up reasonably from the rear with the rack system I have now, lifting the front end and sliding it up with a towel underneath. I was just thinking with a new car with a hitch, maybe a trailer might be even easier. Probably not worth the trouble though. The Y has a cool roof rack, and I could probably use the mounts I have now, or get similar Yakima mounts with rollers built in.

The bigger problem really is just getting out of the boat. I know the techniques, but my various orthopaedic issues have destroyed any ability to get my butt up from the ground. I can always do it eventually, but it ainít pretty. OTOH I can sit comfortably on the bike all day, so thatís the easier choice.

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PLee
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 3675
Location: Brooklyn, NY

7/2/20 8:11 AM

Is the Model Y roof rack meant to be permanently installed? I watched a video about it and it looks like it would be a pain to take off and put back on.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4667
Location: Nashua, NH

7/2/20 10:09 AM

Well, if you can manage to find a relatively calm spot to land, you can pull your legs out while you're still in a foot or so of water and straddle the boat. That way, you're not trying to stand from a deep crouching position.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

7/2/20 10:19 AM

@Brian

I understand that, but I donít always find such venues.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

7/2/20 10:28 AM

@Parkin

Iíve also seen a video, but not sure why youíd want to take it off. Iíve got a Thule rack on my A4, I leave it on. I think people generally leave racks on (the crossbars anyway). I expect you could take the Y rack off and on without too much problem, but most wouldnít. I think the aero loss is small, so I doubt thereís much effect on range.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
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Location: Nashua, NH

7/2/20 10:44 AM

"I understand that, but I donít always find such venues."

That's part of the beauty of paddling, learning to adapt to the environment you're in. Sometimes, it just takes some creativity, but other times you just have to gut it out.

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PLee
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Location: Brooklyn, NY

7/7/20 5:47 AM

Dan -

I've always taken my racks off when not in use. On my current R-Class, I notice a 1 to 1.5 mpg loss with them on, and they're pretty aero, made by Thule. Esthetically, I also prefer the no rack look except on SUV's which are designed with rack rails in place.

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6420
Location: Maine

7/7/20 8:41 AM

@Parkin

Well you are more industrious than I. I have done that with a rack I only use rarely, but for regular use, as with a kayak (hopefully) I would not take it on and off with every use.

Aesthetically, I prefer to at least foster the illusion of an active person.

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