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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 17908
Location: Portland, OR

2/11/20 4:36 PM

Respect my Authoritah!

Hot topic over on thepaceline.net

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK8CclQNjo4

https://www.gofundme.com/f/teenage-cyclist-unjustly-arrested

https://www.bikelaw.com/2020/02/arrested-teen-cyclist/

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Steve B.
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Posts: 756
Location: Long Island, NY

2/11/20 7:34 PM

This has been on a lot of websites

Gotta wonder if the cops are going to handcuff and take in everybody that runs a stop sign.

My thought from the video was had I been a cyclist I’m not sure a police car with a siren would be passing me on the way to another call, or actually pulling me over. Obviously the officer reacted very aggressively (IMO) in determining that the cyclist initial failure to pull over was “resisting arrest”. I’m pretty certain the cyclists had no clue at the actual intersection of what was about to occur, likely they may not have even noticed the officers. And the kids are underage ?, would they even have been told (as they would be in say, Drivers Ed class) that they need to pull over when they are aware of an emergency vehicle overtaking them. Some doubt as to that maybe. Edit: Kid is 18, but handcuffs ?

Obviously there’s more to the story, he said, she said, etc..... it’ll be interesting what the judge asks the arresting officer as to his thinking.

I and a group of fellow riders were stopped once on a local group ride for running a stop sign. We’re were verbally warned for about 10 minutes. I did all the talking for the group and it was all “yes officer”, “you are absolutely correct officer”, etc.... I was not handcuffed.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4701
Location: Nashua, NH

2/11/20 8:12 PM

The cop is an asshole, plain and simple, and a disgrace to his uniform. Aside from the fact that this arrest was complete BS, he repeatedly lied to everyone there. He should be fired, end of story. There was no need for anything beyond a warning to stop at stop signs or perhaps a traffic ticket. On top of it all, he's dialing his phone and gabbing while driving and repeatedly taking both hands off the wheel. Hopefully, the prosecutor will take one look at the video and refuse to pursue the case. Worst case, if it actually goes to court, maybe the judge will slam this jerk of a cop and let the kid go.

And $8500 bail? Really?

And you wonder why there's huge distrust - and even hatred - of cops in this country...

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 17908
Location: Portland, OR

2/11/20 9:44 PM

I may be projecting, but the chaw spitting and 'locale' make for a high probability as soon as he heard the accent and the browner face...

The other issue I have is the audio feed being gone in spots and the hand over the lens of the body cam on some of the released stuff.

You would not want me on the jury if the cop was getting prosecuted for anything related to this. Or he wouldn't...

Isn't 8500.00 really just 850.00 for the bond??

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4701
Location: Nashua, NH

2/12/20 6:28 AM

I agree that the way he (or whoever) censored the audio and video is highly suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if there were racist remarks or other incriminating language being exchanged in those gaps. Doing that required awareness and premeditation.

As for the bond, it still seems excessive, though perhaps it's standard for cases where someone is facing a potential felony charge.

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lrzipris
Joined: 04 Mar 2004
Posts: 501
Location: Doylestown, PA

2/12/20 8:27 AM

I just dropped in and saw this. Particularly as a (retired) public defender, I'm appalled by, but all too familiar with, these kinds of official abuses. Cash bail for a teenager with local community ties?

Resisting arrest? Fwiw, resisting arrest is, in PA, a misdemeanor; in Florida, RA without violence is also a misdemeanor, I think. The equally BS fleeing charge is also a misdemeanor, in PA. All the more reason the bail is excessive, punitive and inappropriate.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 17908
Location: Portland, OR

2/12/20 11:13 AM

"I wouldn't be surprised if there were racist remarks or other incriminating language being exchanged in those gaps."

And that is pretty much my point regarding me sitting on a jury. This alone would have me have more than reasonable doubt.

Anyone remember Mike Nifong / Duke LaCross case...

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Tom Price
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 462
Location: Rochester, NY

2/13/20 8:50 AM

Running the stop sign is a legit charge but the fleeing / resisting charges appear to be a case of "cycling while Latino".

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 4389
Location: metro-motown-area

2/13/20 3:44 PM

PREACH!!!


quote:
The cop is an asshole, plain and simple, and a disgrace to his uniform. Aside from the fact that this arrest was complete BS, he repeatedly lied to everyone there. He should be fired, end of story. There was no need for anything beyond a warning to stop at stop signs or perhaps a traffic ticket. On top of it all, he's dialing his phone and gabbing while driving and repeatedly taking both hands off the wheel. Hopefully, the prosecutor will take one look at the video and refuse to pursue the case. Worst case, if it actually goes to court, maybe the judge will slam this jerk of a cop and let the kid go.

And $8500 bail? Really?

And you wonder why there's huge distrust - and even hatred - of cops in this country...

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