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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: PDX

7/28/15 3:59 PM

Strong CX frame on the way...

Mid march order, so just about 4.5 months. Although I told Carl I have enough bikes to ride timing not really an issue.

The swiss amy knife of monster CX [45C tires fit].

Columbus Life with OS True Temper top and down tubes. Lots of braze ons.



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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: hillbilly heaven

7/28/15 4:44 PM

I like the color and all the braze ons.

I ordered a frame too. A Carver ti custom, probably quite similar in specs to your Strong. Got rack and fender mounts, and can run either canti or disc. Should be in around Labor Day.

That Strong is cool.

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Sparky
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7/28/15 4:59 PM

I thought about Canti mounts on the fork for a front rack, but decided against.
Ti would have cost me $900.00 just the frame. Considering the Powder Coat on the 15 year old bike with 30k+ miles on it only has clear coat scratches, I am still amazed at the durability of the finish to this day. The old bike got some love over the weekend. ;)

Can't wait to get out into the boonies with this one. ;)


I also like the way he drills in all the brazed ons and not the surface welded one I see all to often to chip all up...

He also uses only silver solder for all the braze ons. A lot more $ilver rods adds up at the end for the year, but nets a lot less heat for the braze ons. Only can be good thing.


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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

7/28/15 5:15 PM

Cool

Have fun, I was just out today on my steel Crosshairs, tuning up for D2R2. A good cross bike is a fine thing.

Dan, congrats on the Carver, a bike from the State O' Maine! Carver is just up the road from me in Woolwich, and I have huge respect for Carver and the associated businesses, Bath Cycle and Ski and Bikeman. They are all cyclists through and through and do everything right IMHO. And Carla Carver kicked my a$$ in a time trial once.

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Sparky
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7/28/15 5:24 PM

Will I ever be done buying bikes I wonder... This one is really more of a consolidation replacing several bikes. Making the garage bigger maybe...

Anyone used that excuse yet?


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dfcas
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Location: hillbilly heaven

7/28/15 6:05 PM

I hope I'm never done buying bikes. Hopefully I'll keep interested in whats going on, but I do find some of the new ideas "curious" . I got a basic headtube and "upgraded" to a threaded bottom bracket.

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stan
Joined: 14 Feb 2004
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7/28/15 8:52 PM

Green color is nice

That looks great. 45 tires for CX? You're almost in beach cruiser class :)

I really like it

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April
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Location: Westchester/NYC

7/28/15 9:48 PM


quote:
Will I ever be done buying bikes I wonder... This one is really more of a consolidation replacing several bikes. Making the garage bigger maybe...

Anyone used that excuse yet?

I didn't use it as an excuse. But the result of my buying a cross frame ended up it being the bike I rode the most. Several other bikes now sat rarely used.

Would I stop buying bikes? Of course not. Newer bikes will have improvements in some form or another. While many of those improvements may not mean much for us casual riders, add together it would mean a bike that's more fun. So I will be buying bikes sooner or later. Though admittedly, I tend to buy bikes later rather than sooner. Still, I don't think I would stop buying bikes.

Hmmm... come to think of it, I haven't bought a new bike for about 7-8 years. I can see I'll be buying one before the 10 years mark. There're just enough "new" things out there that I might go for.

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RCoapman
Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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Location: Back in the snowy homeland

7/29/15 7:51 AM

Nice. If I ever get back in shape I'll be getting another Strong. That being said, I'm picking up another fat-guy bike this afternoon after work....

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Sparky
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7/29/15 8:37 AM

A scooter with laced spoked wheels; nice. That is one of the few HD anymore I like. Although the forward foot position and my few compressed discs a non starter. My feet gotta be behind my hip joints on a MC.

Rob, I sold my 1982 Yamaha XV920R I have had since 1993. My last MC, if I am not the motor I get too out of shape. So my commitment to myself is to only ride when I am the motor, thus a bicycle...

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RCoapman
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7/29/15 9:13 AM

Yeah, the spoked wheels are on the chopping block...after the saddle, tank, pipes, air cleaner, and rear fender. I want to run radials and you can't do that with an actual spoked wheel.

I hear you...I know that the time on the moto is time that I could be spending on the cycle but it's just so damned much fun!

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Sparky
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7/29/15 9:24 AM

Something I never thought would be 'out of my system' Which shows how nonsensical my "will I ever stop buying bikes" comment was I guess.

But I was a fair weather MC rider anyway. Just go do 1-2 hours blasts out in the country. Riding for hours on end like the NJ to Old Quebec City trips in the 80s make my ars numb just thinking about it....

But I think out of all of us here that have/had a sled, Smedly holds the saddle record for miles/hours/saddle time on his ST1100 probably....

What is the point reasoning for the tires? Can't be for handling/stickiness?? How you could get that around turns with where you weight is in that riding position seems superfluous....

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Sparky
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7/29/15 9:37 AM

Carl Posted more pics of the frame if anyone wants to see before I build it and post it here rolling with adventure woods build.

http://www.strongframes.com/category/out-the-door/

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walter
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Location: metro-motown-area

7/29/15 9:56 AM

"radials...can't do that with a spoked wheel"

why?

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RCoapman
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7/29/15 11:04 AM

Spoked wheels require a tube and they only make bias-ply tyres for use with tubes.

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walter
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7/29/15 11:51 AM

spokes and tubes (moto)

not true.

lots of people seal traditional spoked rim beds and run tubeless. basically same process as done with bicycles.

lots of people run tubes inside of radials.

and many OEMs make spoked wheels with a tubeless-ready solid inner-wall.

so technically it can work fine.

the bigger question is whether running radials will negatively affect the handling of a moto designed for bias-plys. bias are generally taller and rounder and radials have a shorter sidewall -- that geometric difference can certainly affect a moto's handling in undesireable ways!

love the sportster btw!

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RCoapman
Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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7/29/15 1:03 PM

lol....i forgot which forum I'm on. :P

I should have added "without modification" at the beginning of my post

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

7/29/15 4:23 PM

Through buying bikes

I may be there. I am happy with the 4 bikes I ride regularly (road, cross, rando, commuter/errand/touring, all steel) and see no need to upgrade or replace any. @65 in a few weeks, I think they have plenty of useful life left for my purposes.

If I bought another, it would probably be a fat bike for winter, but I don't see that as compelling currently.

I should say that I also ride a carbon/ti bike fairly regularly, but that is on the Computrainer. :)

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Sparky
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7/29/15 5:32 PM

"I should say that I also ride a carbon/ti bike fairly regularly, but that is on the Computrainer. :)"


But that was #1 for like a decade, no?

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dan emery
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7/29/15 5:41 PM

Yup

It's an excellent bike, and I'd be happy to still have it as my primary road bike. I always considered it perfect, but the Sachs is just a bit perfecter (IMHO).

It's like my 2 favorite restaurants in Maine, #2 being commonly recognized as one of the country's best.

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Sparky
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7/29/15 5:50 PM

" I always considered it perfect, but the Sachs is just a bit perfecter (IMHO)"

I'd kill to throw a leg over a Sachs that fit me. I am kind of there with this recent 753 custom acquisition. I can't stop grabbing it [yet?] to ride. Did 55 on it yesterday before the heat got here. And another Strava Monkey did a blow by in the same stretch on the return leg. Which is a 3% long grade downward. I blew by him a few seconds later and TTed until he looked like an ant in my little lens mounted mirror. That may have been an ant on my glasses actually... ;)

At least I am getting some good intervals on that section....

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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 1690

7/30/15 7:10 AM

Components

I love that green, very sweet.
Not sure if you have already decided on components, but I recently rode the SRAM CX1 and it was pretty sweet.

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Sparky
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Location: PDX

7/30/15 9:43 AM

As far as initial iteration, It is actually getting NOS 9 speed XT, the wheels I had build for the sold Disc Roubaix which are 9 speed XTR/Pacenti SL25 [among others]. Cranks 22/32/44 Race Face I have, XT 11-32 cassette. 10 speeds with Dura Ace Bar cons on One on one midge bars. It will be pretty far off a drop bar road/cx bike as I have a lot of choices in my garage of that ilk. This will totally start life as woods adventure gravel
intended use. I may CX this season, but have a retro steel bike earmarked for that.

The MTN Cranks gearing for planned late 2015 Hood MTN forest planned use where the 22/32 will get me up the grades I do not intend to avoid.

It is ported for Di2, so maybe season 3-4 will get some new love. lord knows the Road Strong I have for 15 years has seen several iterations. ;)

I am thinking in use if the initial configuration satisfies function intended, I will off my Gary 29er. Or possibly keep that if the new CX winds up more normal bar wise if I don't like the wide midge in function.

I built up 4 disc wheelsets, so hope to have purpose specific setups to grab and go. 3 700C which 2 are tubeless ready, a 650B set, and a more MTN HD set which will wind up on the Gary 29er if it stays...

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Sparky
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7/31/15 1:06 PM

Eagle has landed:

4.0 lbs on the money for the frame with a 58.8 Top Tube. So I consider it a 59-60CM frame. This surprised me. And this is with the seat clamp and all the braze ons with bolts in them, the brass frnt DR cable adjuster, bottom pull pulley boss bolt and pulley on the frame. More amazingly, the fork steel with 15" of steel steerer is 1.8 lb. Did not expect that either.

More to come....

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walter
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Location: metro-motown-area

7/31/15 3:28 PM

i christen thee....

Green Machine!!!

<img src=http://retrothing.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452989a69e20192aba3523a970d-pi>

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