2/23/13 8:16 AM

...have you seen the interview where he explains that he told his wife that if she ever feels threatened, she should take his double-barreled shotgun to the balcony and "fire two blasts, outside the house" (presumably in the air)!?

Aside from the fact that it's completely illegal and would land her in jail, if she was actually in danger, she would be left holding an empty weapon! Seriously???

Then again, this is the same person who's pushing for "universal background checks" while also stating that the government "doesn't have time" to prosecute the people caught by existing background checks.

It's mind-boggling that such an utter moron could end up as Vice President.

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2/23/13 9:39 AM

Although I emailed Paul, for my own reasons I stayed out of this discussion until now. But picking on Joe Biden after 8 years of having a president who couldn`t put 2 coherent sentences back to back is just too much as far as mind boggling is concerned. Not to mention that I just contributed to keeping this thread alive....now that`s mind boggling.

2/23/13 10:27 AM

"It's mind-boggling that such an utter moron could end up as Vice President."

Yeah, Cheney was such a better choice...

That is about the most stupid thing I have read here in over a decade, not counting some of my posts...

Like a VPs wife is going to get charged with that, although technically illegal.

Not to mention the secret service is parked like a halo every where most of these folks are.

But this has got to be the most extreme case of the pot/kettle I have read here sine my first login.

2/23/13 11:50 AM

"It's mind-boggling that such an utter moron could end up as Vice President."

Well, it's pretty well understood that Joe comes out with some dumb stuff sometimes. I'm thinking he balances out Old Wayne of the NRA pretty well.

Still, there's a difference between saying something dumb and actually being dumb as sin, like our last Prez., and Biden knows that "Nuclear" is not pronounced "Nucular".

2/23/13 12:16 PM

Not to mention that Biden actually seems to be able to get some things done with the Senate and Congress. I think he's managed to develop sincere relationships with pols on both sides of the aisle.

2/23/13 8:22 PM

I got a call today from the NRA trying to bum money. I told them they had a very wrong number and not to ever call me again.

2/23/13 8:31 PM

Sen the NRA a silver bullet....

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2/24/13 9:24 AM

...that Biden's insane statement was in an interview with Parents Magazine and was in response to a question from a reader about how to defend herself. Obviously, Jill Biden is well protected (it's good to be a member of the "ruling elite"), but "shotgun Joe" is telling the rest of us that this is what we should do to protect ourselves.

Mispronouncing "nuclear" - as Jimmy Carter used to do, as well - is not going to land anyone in jail or in a morgue. Luckily for Joe, he's also immune to lawsuits in the event that anyone actually takes his idiotic advice to heart and suffers the consequences. It's just another example of how out out of touch he is with reality.

2/24/13 10:51 AM

"Biden's insane statement"

Explain to me if you would exactly what is the issue with the vernacular he used?? Because I gotta tell you all I am getting is a Glen Beckish rant on a spun issue.

2/24/13 10:58 AM

With all the conspiracy theory rhetoric, you don't see links between O peration I raqi L iberation, Cheney, Halliburton? Or is that just plain simple established fact?

I really wanted to avoid posting, but how many people extol the GHW Bush administration?

2/25/13 9:18 PM

Only a real partisan would be extolling any administration in recent memory.

But the current admin sure comes up with a lot of strange wordings for Libya and now Syria, how mercenary destabilization and actual or proposed military action is to protect "The People" there. Worked about as well in Libya as it did in Iraq.

And Walter Mondale was actually the first pres candidate that I can positively remember ever saying "nucular", but which might somewhat reveal my age?

2/26/13 5:29 AM

Vernacular has nothing to do with it; it's not the language, it's the message. He's advising people to do something that is illegal, irresponsible and just plain dangerous, both to anyone in the vicinity and to the person who may take his advice. His suggestion is absolutely moronic on multiple levels.

2/26/13 8:11 AM

If I had a full auto weapon with a high cap clip I would shoot this thread.

2/26/13 10:42 AM

Ridiculous. And for the record would not have been illegal where I was in TN, and in lots of rural jurisdictions I suspect. Just as supurflous a fact as your rant. So your blanket rant is just that.

I tire of the way right and left spew 'trip up opportunity jargon'. I could have been WAY busy doing that when Bush/Cheney were at the helm. And IMO there was a lot more sins committed against the peoples of this nation then, by a long shot. Although current admin ain't done, your boys are a hard act to follow.

Otherwise intelligent persons come off as total idiots.

Your rant is a perfect case of this, and you do yourself a disservice, and one to the the readers of this forum with this rhetoric IMO.

I second shooting/killing the thread.

I will stay out this time.

Ciao

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2/26/13 1:10 PM

Third

I almost got pulled in this time though.

2/26/13 10:53 PM

What worries me is when people blame the conversation that allows a view into other's thoughts.
Who, besides those in Washington, would object to people thoroughly discussing their views? Is there something that needs to be hidden?
Is that an American way of respecting our differences?

I wonder how the new guy (Chuck Hagel, CFR & Bilderberg BTW) might weigh in on the current discussion, which, I might remind everyone here, is still at the top of the national news. I'm not sure if he'll be getting much time in front of a mike, but he was at least being touted as somewhat contrarian during his "trial".

I would so much prefer to share and form my opinions here amongst diverse views than try to fathom realities from the painfully-biased news coverage though. The details of the polls they are always citing nearly always get cut from their coverage, so best to assume they are also using a selective process to reinforce their bias.

3/12/13 4:11 PM

Maine continues to consider interesting aspects of this issue. Byron, Maine, recently held their town meeting. A proposed ordinance would have required all households to have firearms and ammunition "to protect the citizens."

The measure was voted down unanimously, with even the people proposing the ordinance voting against it. Apparently they were persuaded by the testimony of a hunter and retired logger with "loads of guns at home" who said the government shouldn't tell people what to do, and said of the ordinance "It's the stupidest thing that's ever been done." The sponsor conceded that it should have said "recommended" rather than "required."

But some of you guys might look into moving up to Byron! Erik, you'll see some snow up there, but it may be worth it!

3/12/13 6:50 PM

There is a town in GA that has that law, break-ins dropped FWIR.

3/13/13 4:15 AM

:-p

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/three-bear-cubs-found-cardboard-212618206.html

3/13/13 4:30 AM

Hey, look on the bright side - gun owners still haven't quite managed to surpass drivers when it comes to the number of people killed each year in the US, but on present trends (rising firearm fatalities, falling traffic fatalities), it'll soon be safer to be on your bike than off it. The crossover is predicted to happen some time around 2015.

3/13/13 5:36 AM

...has had "mandatory" gun ownership (with exceptions, of course) for decades now. Although the ordinance is largely symbolic (it was a reaction to Elk Grove, IL's firearms ban), it did have the effect of reducing their already low crime rate. I saw some interviews with residents recently and they all said that criminals simply don't come to Kennesaw to commit crimes. Imagine that...

Then again, does anyone go to Kennesaw for anything? :-)

3/13/13 7:08 AM

The beautiful thing about having a gun in EVERY home is that when a bad guy finds himself without a gun he will not have a hard time finding one. Talk to someone who lived in South Africa 10-15 years ago to find out what a complete nightmare that can turn into.

As far as break-ins dropping when 'bad guys' know every home is likely to have a gun, I call BULLSHIT! The only way this could be true is if the bad guys in GA are so stupid they only break into homes when there are people at home! Where I come from the bad guys aren't so stupid, they simply spend a little time observing the neighborhood to figure out who's not at home...path of least resistance always makes the most sense. If you have guns to "protect" your home, all the better for the bad guys because it makes the break-in more worthwhile.

My friend who has dozens of guns had his home broken into, fortunately his guns were locked up in a vault which the bad guys tried very hard to open but couldn't. Of course they wrecked the vault which he then had to replace at the cost of thousands. Clearly his vault did it's job, it works so well that IF someone were to break into his home while he was there he'd be unable to defend himself, assuming he doesn't want to sit around with a loaded weapon in his lap.

3/14/13 5:31 AM

I said "crime rate", nothing else. You assumed "break-ins" and went off on a tangent.

The comments I heard were that the overall crime rate dropped and that armed crimes of all types are extremely low. Like it or not, the law did have the effect of reducing crime. As for break-ins or gun thefts, there apparently wasn't any increase, otherwise the anti-gun types would have been all over it. [/b]

3/14/13 6:11 AM

I ASSUMED break-ins??? DUH, Eric said "There is a town in GA that has that law, break-ins dropped FWIR."

So what part of Eric's statement would make anyone with even less than half a brain think I was making an assumption about the break-ins...holy crap Brian, you really need to load up the brain before shooting off the mouth :-0

As far as "hearing" crime rate went down when guns went up, yeah right, and of course the net effect of that would be to help an industry who's sales are going in the dumpster to go back up...gee I wonder if THEY could possibly have had anything to do with why you "heard" crime rate went down??? While the anti-gun types make what money from their agenda??? Follow the money buddy and you will find many answers. Believe the propaganda and you'll get, well you'll get what you have, a country with the worst gun violence rates in the whole world.

Personally I don't think there's a damn thing wrong with America's gun violence rate IF Americans are happy and willing to put up with that violence as merely the price they have to pay to maintain their 'culture'. The problem is, it seems there's a significant majority of Americans who are NOT willing to pay that price, you and Eric just don't happen to be among them.

3/15/13 4:59 AM

Paul, don't you drive fast cars?