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rickhardy
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 1488
Location: Needham outside of Boston - the hub of the universe

1/19/21 6:00 AM

Sad

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/mavic-will-not-provide-neutral-service-at-the-tour-de-france-for-first-time-since-1977-488300?fbclid=IwAR19cHrGsskB4z_inhgrVEZi6VDPT-lc2NomP2o3TOakMZNAgExMpd-TXzQ

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 18030
Location: Portland, OR

1/19/21 10:28 AM

Shimano support colorway is either White on Blue or Blue on White. No yellow, seems wrong... ;(

I think the white vehicle with blue is current?

;)






Yellow used Mavic Service bikes may have been a good purchase after all...

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 2711
Location: hillbilly heaven

1/19/21 11:25 AM

Does Shimano have wheels that work with 12 speed Campy?

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4762
Location: Nashua, NH

1/19/21 3:24 PM

Good question. Maybe they'll buy some hubs from Mavic. ;-)

From the article:
"In a statement, the new (Mavic) owner said: “Mavic must rediscover the dimension of a family SME with agile governance and short and autonomous decision-making circuits that it has lacked in recent years, and with a refocus on what has made the success of the brand.”

Oh Brother...I really hate corporate speak.

This is definitely the end of an era.

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 18030
Location: Portland, OR

1/19/21 4:42 PM

end of an error for a while if you ask me...

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4762
Location: Nashua, NH

1/19/21 5:07 PM

Hey, it's a tough job, made even tougher since disc brakes arrived in the peloton.

If you were referring to Mavic's business, no argument here.

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lrzipris
Joined: 04 Mar 2004
Posts: 516
Location: Doylestown, PA

1/19/21 5:36 PM

SME?

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KerryIrons
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 3088
Location: Midland, MI

1/19/21 6:44 PM

Small to Medium Enterprise (SME)

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lrzipris
Joined: 04 Mar 2004
Posts: 516
Location: Doylestown, PA

1/20/21 12:55 PM

Worse than corporate speak is corporate acronym speak.

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 2711
Location: hillbilly heaven

1/21/21 9:53 AM

Do any teams still use rim brakes? That would mean at least 6 different types of rear wheels, and 2 types fo fronts? Do disc rotors line up that well?

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 18030
Location: Portland, OR

1/21/21 10:17 AM

Discs lining up great point/question.

I intentionally went all centerlock with the deluded impression my wheels would interchagably plug and play.

Even same size/model rotors not exact I learned.

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dfcas
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: hillbilly heaven

1/21/21 11:17 AM

My solution, using 6 bolt rotors, was to buy 3 sets of the same XT hubs at the same time and build 3 sets of wheels. Tolerances on different hubs were not close enough and rubbing/drag was a problem. I doubt that Shimano/Sram/Campy hubs are interchangable without tweaking which would be a major PITA for a pro race.

Also, I found that different rotors were different thickness which caused problems.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4762
Location: Nashua, NH

1/23/21 9:02 AM

I've seen the exact same things with our disc-equipped bikes. In fact, later today I'll be installing some Syntace shims on a new pair of wheels I got for Linda's fat bike, as there's ~.040" difference in the position of the disc compared to her other wheels. That may not sound like a lot, but it's the difference between rubbing hard on the pads on one side and not rubbing at all.

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sanrensho
Joined: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 831
Location: North Vancouver

1/24/21 2:44 PM

Do any teams still use rim brakes?

Two teams ran rim brakes in 2020: Team Jumbo-Visma and Team Ineos. The latter is reported to be switching to discs in 2021, but knowing that team I wouldn't be surprised if they found a place to use rim brakes.

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Nick Payne
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 2502
Location: Canberra, Australia

1/25/21 2:28 AM

I use Syntace rotor shims, and on the two pairs of wheels that I use on my gravel bike - one 700c pair running 35mm road tyres, one 650b pair running 48mm gravel tyres - I shimmed the rotors so that I can swap the wheels without the pads rubbing.

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