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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3053
Location: Springfield

5/16/18 12:17 PM

Dagnabbit, as soon as our fearless leader nominates himself for the Nobel Peace Prize Kim Jong Un stops cooperating.

This geopolitics business...well it's just not business. Don't they know who I am?!

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 16335
Location: Portland, OR

5/17/18 8:07 AM

I am kinda getting tired of all this pussy footing around the highest elected exec in office 'allegedly' being a criminal, past and present. Talk about the quintessential Teflon Don.

It it a total and complete fucking joke. There, I said it. ;)

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walter
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: metro-motown-area

5/17/18 8:09 AM

even with compelling evidence

mueller apparently will not indict.

:-/

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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3053
Location: Springfield

5/17/18 9:58 AM

Teflon Don - finally a POTUS named Don, well played

Indict - vote, impeach, indict. Pence can't pardon state charges I❤NY

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PLee
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 3571
Location: Brooklyn, NY

5/17/18 10:10 AM

We need to get Preet Bharara in as NY Attorney General and have him bring an indictment. He wouldn't be subject to DOJ rules and policies. It would be poetic justice.

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Brian Nystrom
Joined: 26 Jan 2004
Posts: 4005
Location: Nashua, NH

5/17/18 11:05 AM

Don't be so quick to doubt Mueller

Previous investigations into Presidents have taken years. What's most important is that they have an airtight case before bringing charges against a sitting President. That doesn't mean that they will ultimately be convicted - Slick Willy taught us that - but a shoddy or incomplete case would just bolster Trump's claims that it's all a witch hunt. Give him time to do it right.

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Tom Price
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 420
Location: Rochester, NY

5/17/18 4:20 PM

Indict

In my opinion, when Mueller finally announces his charges they will be massive and beyond the scope of any past criminal presidential behavior, money laundering, conspiracy against the United States, accepting bribes, emoluments, obstruction, and perhaps a few more. There is no law against an indictment, just a Justice Dept. policy. Policies can be changed and I believe that Rosenstein will. Whatever happens it will be a massive cluster f*ck.

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PLee
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 3571
Location: Brooklyn, NY

5/18/18 7:52 AM

Mueller is such a straight shooter that I don't think he would indict a sitting President. What I think he will do is turn over everything he has to Congress and leave it to them to decide whether or not to impeach. The evidence will be overwhelming and the Republicans will have to decide whether they have enough integrity left to do what is right.

I also think that Mueller will turn over evidence to state prosecutors wherever there is a basis for state indictments or investigations.

Of course, all of this is guesswork as the Mueller team is so well-disciplined and professional that nothing has been leaked. That alone is pretty impressive.

Contrast that with Giuliani who seems more and more unhinged every time he opens his mouth.

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Jesus Saves
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 1086
Location: South of Heaven

5/18/18 8:09 AM

PLee, I agree with all of your comments, except one. Not to be persnickety, though, it is always Congress, more specifically the Senate has the "sole power to try all impeachments", with the Chief Justice presiding and impeachment meaning strictly removal of the President from office.

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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3053
Location: Springfield

5/18/18 8:13 AM

He's not draining the swamp, he's poisoning the natives and introducing Burmese pythons, unqualified ones at that.

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daddy-o
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Posts: 3053
Location: Springfield

5/18/18 8:17 AM

re: Senate - Less anxious about them, compare the recent House and Senate reports.

(looks like we all took a coffee break / posting break at the same time!)

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