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Nick Payne
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 2626
Location: Canberra, Australia2/11/15 5:40 AM |
In bodybuilding they have "natural" contests, so-called to distinguish them from ordinary bodybuilding contests where virtually everybody is chemically bulked up. My friend who works for ASADA came back chuckling from having run the drug tests at the Australian "natural" bodybuilding championships in Melbourne a couple of years ago. "Eleven positives", he said, "More than at any other event I've ever tested at."
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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 1724
Location: SE Pa, USA2/11/15 6:16 AM |
Article in the Wall Street Journal yesterday (or Monday) about weed as a PED in ultramarathons...
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dddd
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 3345
Location: NorCal2/11/15 12:56 PM |
"Article in the Wall Street Journal yesterday (or Monday) about weed as a PED in ultramarathons..."
I am chuckling at the sort of imagery that conjures up, especially being here in The Endurance Capitol of the World.
I was at the downtown 'running store' last night, now re-imagining all of the Western States 100 glory posters I had been looking at, lol.
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Brian Kelly
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 653
Location: Gig Harbor, WA2/11/15 2:13 PM |
MMA has had a real bad run lately with both recreational and PED positives.
Light heavyweight champ positive for cocaine leading up to a big title defense, and is allowed to fight (out of competition, non PED)
Recent headline fight had both fighters popped for positives- one for steroids, the other for marijuana
2 other bigger name fighters just tested positive for steroids as well.
They also had a big issue with guys getting TUEs for TRT.
My guess is that MMA is probably at the "Festina Affair" level right now- everyone knows what's going on, but they do their best to look away and act like they are only isolated incidents. Time will tell.
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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 1690
2/11/15 3:10 PM |
There is also a piece in this months issue of Outside magazine about running while being high on marijuana.
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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8337
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real2/11/15 6:36 PM |
The debate now in the military.
Weed. With states legalizing the recreational sale and use, the question is; Can the prohibition last in those states if somebody lights up on the weekend?
How is it any different than getting drunk during the same time? If the user is not breaking any laws then where does the DOD have any right to say they can't use it.
I don't and have never used anything other than a stout drink.
Though if legal, I might try a brownie. I won't ever smoke anything, my lungs mean something to me.
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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 1724
Location: SE Pa, USA2/11/15 7:40 PM |
The beauty (depending on how you see it) of potent and legal thc is that edibles, creams and vapor (steam laced with thc basically) are becoming the norm.
Problem with thc testing is its fat soluble, and stays in the system for as much as 30 days depending on dose/frequency.
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Dave B
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 4511
Location: Pittsburgh, PA2/11/15 10:27 PM |
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Problem with thc testing is its fat soluble, and stays in the system for as much as 30 days depending on dose/frequency.
Yes and this is going to be the problem for defining DUI levels for it.
Alcohol levels are legally defined and drop pretty fast so if you are above the legal limit at one point but you wait you will get below it in a reasonable amount of time and you are OK to drive.
THC's persistence makes it a lot harder to define when and if you are impaired and for how long. We may have to go back to "field sobriety" testing.
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