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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
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Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real

2/3/14 8:30 PM

Cosmos is back. NDT is hosting

The scientist in me is excited for this one to air.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kBTd9--9VMI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkBTd9--9VMI

Sagan was one of the greatest teachers ever, NDT has big shoes to fill.

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JohnC
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2/4/14 12:16 PM

This sounds very promising. Tyson and Sagan's widow have been trying to get this together since shortly after Sagan died in 1996. I'm glad Seth McFarlane is doing something worthwhile with the fortune he's made off those shows (I mean, I enjoy them sometimes, but they're pretty thin, and pretty lame sometimes).

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ErikS
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2/4/14 4:29 PM

McFarlane is smart. All the way to the bank.

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KerryIrons
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2/4/14 7:15 PM

PBS

Too bad this isn't on PBS like the original was. This is by far the most serious audience.

There's a lot of fluff on some of the so-called "educational" networks. A number of people left PBS when things like TLC, the History Channel, etc. fired up thinking this was the wave of the future. After a few Big Foot programs they are regretting their choices.

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ErikS
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2/4/14 7:21 PM

ALIENS DID IT! According to the history channel.

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Dave B
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2/5/14 8:46 AM

A lot of the stuff on History, Discovery, etc. are worse than fluff, they are plain misleading and the interminable ads make them almost unwatchable.

However, PBS bears some of the blame. Years ago, the various "educational" commercial channel were bidding on several of the better educational shows and PBS bid so much higher it put them out of the running. PBS was using contributor's and government money and had no incentive to make smart business decisions.

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JohnC
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2/5/14 7:16 PM

I don't really care what channel it's on , and I like the fact that it will run on two channels -- more chances to watch.

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April
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2/6/14 9:09 AM


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However, PBS bears some of the blame. Years ago, the various "educational" commercial channel were bidding on several of the better educational shows and PBS bid so much higher it put them out of the running.

If these other channels have to go into a bidding war with PBS, it's an indication there're not enough of these "educational" program to go around to support even one "serious" channel!

While I somehow doubt that is the case, if it's indeed true, it's just an indication those "other channels" aren't offering programs PBS haven't already. They were simply trying to take some of PBS's viewers away without offering substantially more program. In that case, I'm glad they didn't succeed.

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Sparky
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2/6/14 11:20 AM

Some very good scientific programming on PBS I have enjoyed confused me a bit that grants from a David Koch foundation sponsored.

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JohnC
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2/6/14 12:47 PM


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Some very good scientific programming on PBS I have enjoyed confused me a bit that grants from a David Koch foundation sponsored.

I noticed that at the end of last night's "Nova". Turns out that foundation has given a bunch of money to some worthwhile causes. Reputation greenwashing, I suppose, is how you might characterize it. I guess it doesn't bother me as long as there's no implicit pressure on program content, but that's a worry, since he has expressed some views on scientific issues (says he's not sure global warming is human-caused, but in any event thinks it's a good thing).
More than you probably want to know about David Koch:
http://nymag.com/news/features/67285/

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Sparky
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2/6/14 1:10 PM

I already know more than I want to about too many things I can't do squat about. ;)

Nova and Nature get DVRed here.

There was on Peat Bog buried ancient bodies we found interesting. Mummification has got nothing on being in a peat bog as far as longevity of remains it seems.

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Dave B
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2/6/14 7:13 PM

Not Right


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.... it's just an indication those "other channels" aren't offering programs PBS haven't already. They were simply trying to take some of PBS's viewers away without offering substantially more program. In that case, I'm glad they didn't succeed.

Not the way it went. Discovery, etc were bidding against PBS for independently produced science, history and other worthwhile programs and PBS plain outbid them since,as I mentioned above, PBS didn't have to worry if it made business sense.

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April
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2/6/14 8:22 PM


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Discovery, etc were bidding against PBS for independently produced science, history and other worthwhile programs and PBS plain outbid them

Are you saying PBS wouldn't have bid on those same "independently produced science, history and other worthwhile programs" at all had Discovery weren't around?

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