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PLee
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 3624
Location: Brooklyn, NY

5/3/13 7:40 AM

Time to Day Dream

Because it's Friday - let me throw this one out.

What components would you pull together for a light weight bike project? The only constraints being (1) no custom work other than the frame, all components to be off the shelf, and (2) nothing stupid light; the bike needs to be rideable by a 160 lb (75 kg) rider over less than ideal road surfaces (think NYC streets).

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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
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Location: Westchester/NYC

5/3/13 7:47 AM

A dream is not constrained by budget, right?

I would start at the electronic shifter thingy!

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6155
Location: Maine

5/3/13 7:52 AM

uh oh

Sounds like more than a day dream to me....

Like to help but I have no experience with lightness (personal or equipment).

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Dave B
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA

5/3/13 9:53 AM

Capable of surviving being ridden over NYC streets? I'd start with a Surly LHT or Trek 520 frame. a suspension fork and MTB components. :)

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ErikS
Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 8310
Location: Slowing boiling over in the steamy south, Global Warming is real

5/3/13 10:58 AM

Oh jeeze, talk about the $$$$$ I could spend.

For me I would start with a proven fast frame. Brand loyalty aside. The base would be a Cervélo S5. I will come back after I think for a while. I don't often window shop for bike bits.

Wheels, ultra light full carbon sew-ups. Can I still get Lew wheels?


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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 1648
Location: SE Pa, USA

5/3/13 11:02 AM

Get whatever light frame floats your boat (I really like the stupid expensive high end R series Cervello's-the S's aren't built with weight as a goal) and then equip it with Tiso drivetrain parts and Tune or AX everything else. Easy peasy for an NYC man (to quote Lou).

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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: Portland, OR

5/3/13 11:04 AM

"I would start at the electronic shifter thingy!"

My first thought as well

"Sounds like more than a day dream to me.... "

I refuse to enable someone like this...

Well maybe a little:

1000 gram tubular carbon wheels of course, and a Parlee probably. Always wanted to try one of those.

Or even better, have Carl Strong do his magic with
carbon. Coapman, I bet would have that one first on the list. Rob and I have talked about a Strong Carbon hand laid frame like we have talked about laid in other contexts.. ;)


Having typed that, I have a Scott LTD IMP frameset in the other room. Good choice for weenie project as well. Just under 1500 grams for a 61CM frame with headset/spacers and integrated seatpost clamp on mast. that is one light Extra Large frameset in my book.


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sandiway
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Posts: 4902
Location: back in Tucson

5/3/13 12:09 PM

dream bike

Mine would be the BMC TMR01. So clean. Almost no cables visible.
Hidden front brake (inside fork) and rear. Aero (it did the best in the 2013 Tour Magazine test) and light (truncated aero shapes).

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/2013-bmc-tmr01-lighter-stiffer-more-aero-34463/

Plus the new 9070 11-speed Dura-Ace with hidden shifters everywhere so you never have to move your hand. Look at the number of ports now available!

http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2012/05/16/1337187289165-v3qg5iyhauz8-670-70.jpg

Get the widest range gearing possible.

Only thing standing in the way is that I don't have the playdough to spare for this project.

Sandiway

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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 1620

5/3/13 12:58 PM

I know that you said "other then the frame" but continuing with the off the shelf theme, the Cannondale Evo super six...
Also someone mentioned Parlee, not sure if you know or not but there is a new Parlee dealer in Dumbo.


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Sparky
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: Portland, OR

5/3/13 1:04 PM

Looking at that BMC, my Roubaix is so old school. ;)

The back brake look like a V brake under the stays, nice touch. ;) I could go a few second faster every 10 miles on that thing maybe... ;)

But, not being about the bike, and like that. I am leaving to pick up on my long ride now that I cobbled the Bridgestone back together.

So as much as I appreciate the new ilk and so-forth. I seem to be going back in time bike/interest wise is all truth. I like when more than an ant fits between the seat tube and tire.

I may eventually have Carl make me another frame.
But it will be a disc all purpose steel road/trail-ish thing with wide rims and cables I am afraid. ;)

The Scott is here for me to build for my friend Scott. Last time I had a 15 lb bike I found it annoying to ride, especially descending FWIW. You know, back when 15 lb for a bike for someone my size was a challenge to build. ;O

I am not finding riding short steep bikes appealing anymore, there I said it... [again?]


Ciao, later...

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PLee
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
Posts: 3624
Location: Brooklyn, NY

5/4/13 4:42 AM

AX

I actually have a spare AX saddle sitting in my garage. Amazing how light those things are. I have another on my main bike and love it.

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Dave B
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
Posts: 4511
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

5/4/13 6:13 AM

Real Thoughts

I'm a fan of Ti frames (my main bikes are older Litespeeds) so I'd start with a custom Seven or Moots Ti frame and probably an Easton carbon fork.

CK headset
DA Di2 compact drivetrain
DA alloy (not carbon) wheels or DA hubs w/ Mavic CXP-33 rims

Wouldn't be the lightest thing available but would suit me very well. When should I expect your check?

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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
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Location: Westchester/NYC

5/4/13 7:32 AM

AX?

Haven't been following the new components too closely. Who's AX?

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 6155
Location: Maine

5/4/13 7:57 AM

actually

Parkin, I think you'd be looking good on one of these (and I'm sure the wheels could handle the potholes):

http://www.colnago.com/cf8/

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dan emery
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Location: Maine

5/4/13 8:04 AM

there's more!

Parkin, I came upon this, which gives many appropriate "eco-luxurious" options:

http://www.bornrich.com/entry/world-s-most-expensive-bicycles-for-eco-luxurious-ride/

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PLee
Joined: 08 Dec 2003
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Location: Brooklyn, NY

5/4/13 12:11 PM

April - The company is AX-Lightness out of Germany. You can Google them. It helps if your bank provides a means to wire Euros to a foreign account.

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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: SE Pa, USA

5/4/13 2:09 PM

Yes, LOTS of Euros.

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henoch
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Posts: 1620

5/4/13 2:39 PM

For wheels I'd say that Mad Fiber is the way to go, their wheels are amazingly light and ride really well.

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April
Joined: 13 Dec 2003
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Location: Westchester/NYC

5/5/13 5:38 PM


quote:
It helps if your bank provides a means to wire Euros to a foreign account.


quote:
Yes, LOTS of Euros.

Yes, I've had non-US dollars wired to foreign accounts before.

It's the "LOTS" part that I haven't (got)!

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greglepore
Joined: 10 Jan 2004
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Location: SE Pa, USA

5/6/13 5:55 AM

Chuckle. Yeah, it's amazing stuff-55 g saddles, brakes that weigh as a set what other light brakes weigh a caliper, but the saddle is close to 500 Euros, the brakes 1000...

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